Thursday, October 11, 2018

So Called Combatives Instructors And Real Hypocrisy

There was a recent Blog post by an instructor who use the word Combatives in the name of his website/business, but his program revolves almost completely around BJJ and Boxing. Essentially it's MMA based. The subject of his post concerned what he called the Hypocrisy of Combatives and other RBSD practitioners about issue of how you shouldn't go to the ground in a street encounter.

Although what really annoyed him was how they only warn of the danger of doing that in unarmed encounters, but somehow never talk about it to complain about people in gunfights not being concerned about a bad guys friends or partners coming to the rescue of their fellow bad guy.

Now he put out some convoluted explanation of how the one related to the other about how you always have to be aware of other potential threats when engaged in a fight armed or otherwise, but it really just came off kind of lame. The apples and oranges analogy comes to mind.
He put out the usual misquote about the whole going to the ground issue of "Combatives guys say never go to the ground", when the actual statement is "never go to the ground intentionally if you can help it, but if you do wind up on the ground then disengage as quickly as possible and get back on your feet".

Now to help prove his point he put up two videos. One was of a fight in a Las Vegas restaurant involving one patron using his grappling skills to subdue a belligerent drunk who was threatening the wait staff. The other involved to female store owners who used a handgun to fight off an armed robber. Now I will be the first to admit that luck and intestinal fortitude has as much to do with their success as their tactics and extremely sloppy skill at arms.

However the ground grappling incident in Vegas was another matter entirely. The Grappler involved was the UFC icon Matt Serra. The video provided by the Blog author showed Serra having already pinned the "bad guy" in the mount, and laughing about the whole thing until security showed up and took over. What the Blog author failed to mention was that there was another video that clearly showed that Mr. Serra understood that in the real world, before you get into a physical altercation with someone it pays to be sure of the situation.

The other video I speak of showed Mr. Serra sitting at a table a few feet away from the "bad guy" who was about 50lbs lighter, obviously drunk, and that his only companion or buddy was an unconscious and apparently also drunk female. The video also proved that Mr. Serra was not alone and also had at least one male friend with him. Now I'm not taking anything away from Matt Serra's abilities, his record speaks for itself, but it was pretty obvious that taking the belligerent drunk to the ground and restraining him was not going to present any real threat.

Yes, anything can happen, but the odds of this going wrong were not very high. Below is a link to a news article showing both videos;

http://www.ktvu.com/news/ufc-fighter-matt-serra-subdues-drunk-at-las-vegas-restaurant


Now the Blog author chose to show the Las Vegas video but he chose to happily pontificate about how there were hundreds of other videos on Youtube that clearly showed many cases of Grapplers going to the ground, winning, and not being subjected to a boot party by friends of his attacker. And I will agree that those videos do most certainly exist.

However there are also an extensive number of videos on Youtube showing when Grapplers went to the ground and wound up regretting it. Although admittedly finding them is not as easy as typing in "JJ practitioner wins fight". Not a lot of videos are described as "Grappler goes to the ground, starts winning and gets kicked to death by the losing guys friends". Now just as the other Blog author did, I will not attempt to list an untold number of Youtube videos proving my point, however I will link to what I feel is a sufficient number to prove that these incidents do happen, and not just once in a million times.

Before I link the videos let me just conclude by saying that as regards "Hypocrisy", Methinks the other Blog Author (whose name I will not mention and to whom I will not give any advertising for his website) doth protest too loudly.















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