Sunday With Blackthorn - A Basic Combat Judo Course Part 8 by Mark Tripp

Combatives Part 8

From: MTripp
Date: 10-May-00

Understanding the Shoot and the "Butt Scoot"

I guess some folks are having a problem here; and my students are starting to think some of you are very dense; so lets look at this.

An assault is NOT a duel. You are going to have little or no warning. It will be nothing like the movies or the dojo.

My job is to give you the best chance to end this and keep your life. So here is a very simple question...
If you are attacked from behind what are you going to do?

Now, if you train students with VERY specific methods to deal with specific attacks you are going to have a real problem. Mainly because by the time the student figures out what the exact attack is, the 3 to 5 second window has closed and they are dead.

That’s right; you have 3 to 5 SECONDS to end this thing. You have about ONE SECOND to kill his attack and blast him with yours.

Now, unless you have eyes in the back of your head, you have NO idea how he is attacking, or if he has a weapon. ANY standing turn will keep you in the "kill zone" and you will get blasted.

BUT, if you are taught ONE simple concept; the SECOND you perceive a threat you are going to drop down and turn into a single or a double; NOW you have changed the game.

You do NOT wait for the hold to get on or to see what is what. We have found that the dropping dead weight causes the person to lose their grip and you can easily hit the shoot.

UNLESS; you drill this over and over and the dojo "attacker" begins to get used to the technique. DO NOT allow this! The guy on the street is going to have NO idea what is going to happen, and this will work, Drill it!!!

As to the "butt scoot". There are three places where this is VERY important. Lets take the drop and shoot.


If your shot "fails" you can fall to your side and begin kicking the leg of the bad guy.
Using the "kick then get up" part of it you can get back to your feet safely.

If you do hit the shot; WHY GET INTO A GROUND GRAPPLING MATCH??? Roll to your side; kick him in the face and get up! Get this; because you have trained to get up this way you will get to your feet MUCH faster than the other guy. Sambo teaches a fallimg man will always attempt to regain ballance. Hence his arms will be away from his head. He will also put them down to get up. Getting in a clean boot to the head shot is a good thing for our side!

Also, keep in mind if you throw him down, stay standing, and kick him in the head; YOU are in trouble. Most places feel that is not defending yourself as the attacker was "down". BUT; if you BOTH are down....
Still; I'd go for a field goal with his head on the get up... but I am not telling you to do that

Finally, you use the but scoot position and kicks from same ANY time you blow a technique. Your throw goes bad (either fails or you both hit the ground); you miss the shoot; your control isn't working, etc; BAIL and start kicking him. Your job is to make this take longer than 3 to 5 seconds. You are screaming "fire" the whole time. HE is the one with the time table here; you only have to stall him until help arrives; OR, you get your PPD into play.

This is the OTHER reason for the Butt Scoot. It frees the hands to get your PPD into this fight.

Advanced students can learn the many Sambo leg hooks and trips from that position; but the basic concept is to drop turn and shoot from ANY rear assault; and use the butt scoot for any blown technique of that type; as well as after ANY throw where both of you have hit the ground.

Next time; the Guard and its correct use in combatives.

From: ILVQLOS
Date: 10-May-00
What is the butt scoot?


From: MTripp
Date: 10-May-00

The Gracies call it "the ground get up". It is a way to defend and kick from the ground as well as using a kick to get up with. It is in various Sambo and even very old Judo texts. Others will have to tell you where you can find it; I know Renzo goes into it on his tapes.

From: ILVQLOS
Date: 10-May-00
Yeah,

Coach Tripp has two videos available through John Saylor's Shingitai Jujitsu Assoc. and, Chris Herzog a.k.a. Chzog on this forum has a seminar video of Mark Tripp, vol.1 available through him. That should get you started. BTW Chris, what's up with vol.2?

From: MTripp
Date: 11-May-00

Any good book on wrestling will detail the workings of "shooting" single and double legs. As well as the "mets" (skuki nage).

First I would spend a lot of time learning how to get these moves; and finish off these moves.

Once that is learned you will practice turning into your opponent as you drop; you will be in position (depending on how far you get turned) for the double leg (full turn) single leg (half turn) or the mets (small turn).

I had hoped there would be enough tapes out there of NHB fights to see the butt scoot, but I will try and describe this, ANYONE please jump in and help here.

You are on your side (for this we will say right side). Contact point is your right hip and right hand. Your job is to keep both of your feet between you and the bad guy. Left arm is up to ward off any leaping attempts.
Now keep spinning and kicking him. At this point your top leg (left in this case) will do most of the work. The bottom leg (right in this case) is used to get up. To do this you kick with the right leg as you put the bottom of the left leg on the ground. Without putting the right leg down, you lift your hips and pull your leg back and around and put it flat on the ground too.


You should be in a strong base at this point and sideways to the bad guy. Your right leg is now chambered for a strong kick.

If anyone can make this clearer or add something please do!